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>> i'm chris wallace, and this >> i'm chris wallace, and this is "fox news sunday." captioning made possible by fox news >> today, the president is talking and talking. but we have a "fox news sunday" exclusive, the only place you won't see barack obama, making yet another pitch for health care. our issues today, acorn under fire. the controversial community organizing group gets slammed by congress after undercover videos show possible criminal activity. we'll have a fair and balanced debate between the head of
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acorn, bertha lewis, and one of the groupest toughest critics, congressman darrell issa. then, is the recession over? is the economy on the rebound? we'll ask our blue ribbon panel of ceos, fred smith of fedex, john chambers of cisco and steve odland of office depot. plus, the white house dismisses protestors and boycotts a news organization. whatever happened to reaching out to all americans? we'll ask our sunday panel, brit, mara, paul and juan. and our power player of the week, the legendary hope diamond as you've never seen it before. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. as you may have heard by now, president obama decided to do five sunday shows today, but the white house made it clear they had no interest in talking to us. more on that later.
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first, the nation's biggest community organizing group known as acorn was caught in a hidden camera sting, then saw both houses of congress vote to cut federal funding. we're joined by acorn's ceo, bertha lewis, and by one of its toughest critics, congressman darrell issa. we welcome both of you to "fox news sunday." ms. lewis, when those videos of acorn workers who were helping what they thought were a pimp and a prostitute first came out, you said the following, and let's put it up. we are their willie horton for 2009. we are the boogie man for the right wing and its echo chamber. now the vast majority of democrats in the house and senate have voted to cut funding for acorn. can you still say this is just about race and politics? >> well, we are the largest community organization of low and moderate income folks and mostly people of color and, of course, any organization is not
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entirely perfect. i think congress, you know, will be looking at doing an anti-acorn amendment and just singling out one organization, but we continue to make sure that all of our employees, if they're too stupid to understand that they are not reaching professional standards, we terminate them and we actually make sure that, you know, what we do internally is serving our constituents, 500,000 poor black and brown, asian and white people in this country. so i was outraged by it. everyone should be. and i can understand how the congress was also. >> well, congressman issa, it's not just the videos. in july the republican staff, your staff on the government oversight and -- rather, the house committee on oversight and government reforms, issued an 88-page report in which you charge the following. acorn has committed investment fraud, deprived the public of its right to honest services, and engaged in a racketeering
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enterprise affecting interstate commerce. briefly, explain why you think acorn is a criminal organization. >> one thing they did was cover up an embezzlement both internally and externally and then glossed over the dollars. >> it was an embezzlement by the brother of the founder back in 1999 and 2000 of almost a million dollars. >> of almost a million dollars. basically, the founder stayed on the board until this became public eight years later. now he's with affiliates doing the same work and able to say, well, he's not with the company. the bottom line is there's no transparency in acorn. any charity that you would look at, and we've looked at them in our committee, you normally find out who's paid what, where the money goes, what the collection costs are, and so on. here we have literally hundreds of organizations tied under the acorn umbrella, and you can't even find out what their incorporation is, whether they
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pay taxes, who makes what, or, more importantly, whether corporations within the affiliates work in different areas. political fundraising, getting candidates elected, voter registration, other community activities, whether or not those moneys are moved illegally. >> that brings up, ms. lewis, the question i got most from our viewers in e-mail after we announced you were going to be on the program, which was how can a nonprofit engage in political activity? it turns out that acorn, the parent group, is not a 501c4 which would be tax exempt but rather a taxable nonprofit. the congressional research service says that you are the only taxable nonprofit that they could find in this entire country. is that so that your various subsidiaries can get federal funds and act as nonprofits while your parent group can engage in political activity?
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>> we've made sure since i've become the ceo that affiliates have firewalls between them. i know that back last year, we were outraged that the board didn't know about the previous chief organizer's activities. i've completely overhauled all of our finances, all of our controls, and he was fired immediately just as in this instance with these tapes we terminated folks immediately. under my watch and my leadership, i will make sure that we keep saving people's homes, making sure that people get paid good wages, and making sure that our corporate structure is above board, it is open, the "r" in acorn stands for reform. not only do we think we want to reform public policy, but internally let's have some reform. >> but, ms. lewis, if you're so concerned about serving the community, obviously, being a taxable nonprofit means that you have to pay taxes. >> that's true. >> if you're so concerned about
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serving the community, why not be a nonprofit -- a tax-exempt nonprofit, stay out of politics and then you could give that money instead of to the federal government, you could give it to your community. >> i think what you would also agree with is the right of the people to come together not only to petition their government, they have the right to do that, poor people have the right to do that, but you also need to be able to do lawful activities such as servicing the committee, as we do. hundreds of organizations do the same thing that we do. we make sure that we service our 500,000 members. >> congressman issa? >> but in fairness, bertha, i don't know of another organization structured the way you are where they're both a political wing, if you will, of the democratic party and has close relations with the unions and takes federal dollars and takes charity money and does not disclose in a way in which anybody, your donors, the
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government when they provide money, can actually get transparency. if you're going to change this, will you come before chairman townes, a man who voted not to cut off your funding, and give the disclosure to where the committee can know that you are doing work with firewalls so the american people know their dollars don't end up doing political activities prohibited by law? >> here's the question we really should be asking. >> answer his question. >> the question we really should be answering, you have an organization such as ours that absolutely pays its taxes and absolutely provides its services, it has firewalls up. we think it's up to the congress to determine how they would handle some sort of anti-acorn program or amendment. there are poor people in this country every day that we're saving their homes, making sure that they have decent wages -- >> but why not go -- could you answer -- could you answer the
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congressman's -- >> it's not up to us. my job -- my job is to serve our 500,000 members. >> ms. lewis, could you answer the question directly? why not go -- why not go before the committee? we're talking about -- please let me ask the question. congressman townes, who is a democrat, it is a democratic controlled committee, but there are obviously republicans like the ranking republican, congressman issa, say come before us and explain because it seems you're merging charity, profit, nonprofit, political, non-political, it gets jumbled up and you don't know which dollar is going where. >> that's congressman issa's opinion. we will do whatever we need to do to make sure that folks understand the work that we actually do and that we've been doing for 40 years. that we've been doing and we've been doing it well. >> chris is asking a question. you're giving an answer that your own counsel kingsley said is not true. you don't have firewalls. that's an internal memo that
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yo your counsel is saying you have these problems. if you had those problems then and for 40 years have had these problems and the american people have put $53 million in your organization and countless other dollars of other state, local and charity money, the question is will you allow at least looking back a review of these things so that people can have a confidence that you have those in. there's no god-given right for any organization to receive a grant from the american people. the fact is there are organizations standing in line that wish they won instead of you and they're giving us the transparency so we can have the confidence the money is spent only for the purpose of the grant. >> congressman issa is right. you have competitive grants and you need to compete with a lot of other folks. you need to deliver those services. he's absolutely right. he's absolutely right that his staff, who repeatedly talked to
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the lawyers, who said we did an internal document, they gave advice. since i took over, i have overhauled the entire system. >> wait, wait, wait. >> we took advice. >> you say you overhauled the whole system. >> yes. >> there are the videos which have happened on your watch. i just want to put up there are acorn workers advising young men and women posing as a pimp and a prostitute how to buy a house and avoid paying taxes. here it is. >> i want to point out because you've also attacked fox, fox
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did not produce, did not make, did not buy those videos. we've just put them on the air like everybody else now has. you were brought in a year ago to clean up acorn. >> uh-huh. >> is this the new and improved acorn? >> well, what did i do? immediately these folks were terminated. >> but you first attacked us and said it was a -- >> they were terminated immediately. i know the sequence. those folks were terminated immediately. what did i also do? make sure we have an independent review, make sure that we suspended any walk-in activities so we could review what worked, what didn't work, in instances. those folks were thrown out. i have an obligation to my board, to my members and to my other employees that actually did practice professional good high standards. those folks -- >> why is that going on a year after you took office? >> here's the thing. i, as i said, the first thing we began to do was reorganize our board, make sure we had
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financial structures and controls, make sure the way our offices were managed, and in a way it's indefensible what i saw there. that is why i said you know what, we're going to terminate these folks immediately even though i've been reviewing things and making sure that we look at an organization that has 71 sites in a way that was good for us so what it did was show up to us what weaknesses we have and we have moved swiftly. >> acorn -- >> in order to correct that. >> acorn has long ties to barack obama. he's done work over the years for various -- >> you say long ties. that's a matter of opinion. >> he was an attorney for acorn on a couple of decisions. >> you endorsed barack obama last year in a speech before acorn. do you hope that he will veto any measure that comes out of congress cutting off acorn funds? >> first of all, president obama was a young lawyer among many different lawyers that
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represented a whole host of organizations. not just us. >> can i get an answer to my question? >> president obama is a very smart, very thoughtful person. what he does is his decision. i would never presume to tell the president whether he should veto a bill or not. >> he says that he believes that acorn should be investigated. >> well, that's his opinion also. >> it's also chairman john conyers' opinion and he's asked to pursue that. this is not republicans. this is about all the corporate structure, whether things have been violated. you know, if you want to have an independent investigation, and i've heard that expression used by bertha many times, you go to price water hours or ernst and young and say i want an audit of our corporations, and when we get -- >> let me interrupt you, if i may, because you said this last week that you would name an independent auditor by friday to review acorn. i looked at your website 20 minutes ago.
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there's still not a word. >> you will have that announcement on monday making sure that when we hit the ground running that everything is in place because it is important -- >> does that mean somebody independent like price waterhouse? you're naming the auditors. >> you'll find out who that person is and you'll also note that we brought in things last year, new auditors, new financial professionals to make sure that they gave us sound advice, which i've been implementing as well as making sure that what you just saw never, ever happens again. >> bertha, if i could ask just one question from the standpoint of the government. >> we're almost out of time. >> before we provide additional grants or make you eligible for additional grants, wouldn't it be fair for you to demonstrate to the federal government, to the agencies, that, in fact, you now have those separations so that whether it's price waterhouse or somebody else, will you assure us that that's the case?
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because my opinion continues to be you shouldn't get another penny of federal dollars until you demonstrate that those dollars are firewalled for only that use and that has not been the history of the organization. >> and i'm glad congressman issa said that is his opinion. >> are you willing to open your books up to -- >> i am willing to do the work that i need to do every single day, not be distracted, make sure that things that we do well we continue and things we don't do well we change and reform. i have to work for poor people. i have to make sure i'm saving people's homes. i have to make sure that children don't get lead poisoning. that's my job. that's what i'm going to do. >> i want to thank you both. i thank you both for coming in and answering all of our questions. >> thank you. >> up next, with fed chairman bernanke starting to talk about a recovery, three of the country's top ceos give us their bottom line on the state of the economy. we'll be right back. i'm ed whitacre, the new chairman of general motors.
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>> with some positive news on the economy coming from washington and wall street, we thought the time was right to convene top business leaders to find out where they think we stand. we're joined by fred smith, chairman of federal express, john chambers, head of cisco,
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who comes to us from california, and from florida steve odland, chairman of office depot. well, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke said this week the recession is very likely over. we now hear that president obama says he believes the economy is beginning to grow again, but it's going to be next year before we see jobs picking up. fred smith, fedex stock is up 18% this year but you announced quarterly earnings are down 53%. where do you see things right now? >> i think the recession has bottomed out. we have a very unique view of the economy, chris. we have our express company that operates all around the world, our ground company that's tied in with retail, our freight company that's tied in with the industrial sector of the economy, and we're really beginning to see some pickup in all three of those areas. asia is very strong at the moment, led by chain -- china. so there's no question in our mind the economy has stabilized,
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albeit at a lower base. >> john chambers, cisco stock is up 43% this year but earnings are down 21%. where do you think we are in this recession? >> well, i think fred is probably the best indicator of especially small business and the consumer type activity. we see what's going on in medium size business and larger companies. we saw the market for us level out in the first calendar quarter of this year. the second calendar quarter we began to see pretty good upturns in terms of sequential growth. good balance in the u.s., asia very solid, as fred said, latin america, europe will probably lag by a couple of quarters. i think the key takeaway, chris, isn't about the economy recovering, because it clearly is. it's do we put americans back to work and have we made the changes in this downturn to position our country on the global basis. >> we're going to get to that in a second.
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let me bring to steve odland. office depot shares up 111%, but second quarter earnings down. are you seeing a turnaround, mr. odland? >> office depot's companies are small businesses, and so we've been a barometer of the health of the small business sector. what we've seen is that this sector, the small business customers have been hurt disproportionately in this downturn because housing is a traditional source of liquidity for these people. they start their businesses with a second mortgage. they fund them with home equity lines of credit. as that credit has dried up, these businesses have not been able to recover. so we went off the shelf and i feel we're at the bottom but we're not seeing meaningful recovery at this point. i'm worried we're not going to until liquidity returns to small businesses. >> all right. we're going to get into that. actually, let me pick up with you, mr. odland, on that. there was this credit crunch. have you seen the obama policies -- i want to turn to
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what the president is doing now, both what he's done and what the fed has done, both the stimulus, also the financial rescue. has that eased the credit crunch? >> well, you know, the stimulus money has not gone to small businesses. this is an unusual recession in that it's been banking-led and housing-led. as these sources of cash have dried up for small businesses, they haven't been replaced by stimulus money or any other money. the issue here is that every modern recession is led out by the small businesses as they create jobs. so all net job creation happens in small business. in this case, we're not going to see a job rebound until we see these small businesses get more access to liquidity. >> mr. chambers, when you look at what the white house is doing, because the president and his administration, while being cautious, has said that they believe their policies are responsible at least for the end of the economic freefall.
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do you think they're making the kinds of changes that you talked about in your first answer, to build a solid and enduring recovery, and do you worry about government intrusion in the private sector? >> well, chris, if you call me john, i'd appreciate it. that way i won't feel too old. in terms of the policies, i think you have to give the central banks and the fed reserve positive marks on the global basis and i do think you see trends going the right way that both steve and fred talked about. in terms of the programs that they're spending money on such as the smart grid capability, really making our country competitive from an electrical point of view and cost to the consumer in terms of broadband, in terms of electronic medical records, they're steps in the right directions. much like investments business makes, you won't know for 12-18 months if they're the right steps. a lot of them still have form to take. it is an area that they're starting to spend. i'm cautiously optimistic.
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>> fred smith, are the obama economic policies helping or hurting? >> i don't think they're hurting, chris. i'm not sure they get to the heart of the fundamental problem. the economy got way too invested in finance and housing, and it did so because the tax policies of the united states favor debt, speculation in the financial services sector as opposed to the industrial sector. so if you want to improve the earnings power of blue collar folks, you've got to stimulate the industrial sector. and our tax policies just don don't -- just don't do that at the present time. >> give me one magic bullet. >> i think there are two things that need to happen. one, the tax rate in the united states at the corporate level is 38%. other than japan, it's the highest in the industrialized world. seco secondary, if you borrow money
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to invest on wall street, the government is helping you. if fedex buys a new 777 that employs people building the plane, we get that airplane and put it in service and we have to depreciate that airplane. in other words, the capital investment in that equipment is taxed much greater than speculation in the financial sector. so expensing that capital would be a huge stimulus to the industrial sector of the economy. >> let me bring you all in to what is the big subject here in washington, and that, of course, is health care reform. since you insist on it, john, i'll begin with you. would the president's health care reform plan -- i'm not talking the specifics, but the general outline of it, would that be good or bad for the economy? >> well, i think, chris, you've got to find a way to get every american covered by health care capabilities. to be the richest nation in the world and not deal with it i
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think would be a problem for us. i do think technology has to play a much more aggressive role which i've not seen from any of the proposals in front of us in terms that reducing costs of health care at the same time you deliver the service. so i think you can do an end. i think you can provide the service, but we have to do it smarter and much more technology-based than before. the current plan, i think we have a way to go. >> steve odland, where do you think the democrats are headed on health care reform? what's that going to mean to your business and to the economy? >> well, i think we've got to go back on health care and ask the question what are we trying to solve, what problem are we trying to solve. we seem to have about 45 million americans who are not covered. half of them have access and choose not to buy it, which is, i think, an american choice. half of the rest are illegal aliens. we have to debate that. i think what we're trying to solve is access for about 5 to 7 million americans out of 310 million americans. so you've got 80-85% of the
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population, which is fine, with the coverage. we have to be careful not to mess up the greatest system in the world in order to solve the problem for a few. so i'm a little worried about big government interaction here and the effect on small business and large business as well. >> fred smith, there's been a lot of complaints from big corporations and small businesses that this is going to add to their costs. >> well, there certainly has to be reform as john said and steve mentioned, there are about 46 -- i think it's 47 million people that are not covered today. 160 million people get insurance from their employers. about 80 million are covered in medicaid primarily for the young and medicare for the aged. the problem is that the people that do provide insurance, like fedex, for our employees or office depot or cisco are actually paying for the medical care for the uninsured because we don't deny people medical
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care. so if i were the czar, i would basically say what we need to do is to have a mandated coverage of catastrophic care. when i was young, there was no such thing as first dollar medical care or medical insurance. it was major medical. i think if we got to the point where our major or catastrophic medical expenses were covered and the market worked between medicare and medicaid, you'd have the beginnings of a reasonable solution. >> we're beginning to run out of time. i'll ask you, mr. smith, for a quick answer on this. president announced tariffs on chinese tire imports. sensible response or do you worry that we're headed for protectionism and a trade war? >> i think we have to be very careful about this. 25% of the united states economy is related to international trade. about 13% in imports, which give us a much higher standard of living. about 12% of our economy are exports. and we have to be very careful.
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there are 5.7 billion consumers outside the united states in excess of our 300 some odd consumers. trade has built our standard of living. we have to be extremely careful not to bring in protectionism, because it will be a very catastrophic result if we do. >> we've got about 30 seconds left for each of you. so let me start with you, john, and we'll go around. your thoughts about -- look a year out in 30 seconds. where do you see the economy? where do you see unemployment? >> i think the economy a year out will be growing between 2 and 4%. i think you'll start to see the unemployment pick back up, but, chris, the real sustainability of this is based on have we thought three to five years out how competitive our business, education and health care system is. if we do it right, i think we'll build a base for the future. i'm optimistic for america's future. >> steve odland? >> the economy started to go off two years ago and calmed down
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dramatically. i think we need to get the liquidity to the small businesses to start to create jobs. if we do that, we will have a slow, steady recovery in 2010. but i think it's going to take two to three years to get back to where we were two years ago. so this is going to be a long haul. >> finally, fred smith. >> i think in the fourth quarter this year, the economy is going to grow over 4% sequentially. next year our forecast is for between 2.5 to 3%. but remember, that's off a lower base that's come down because of the tremendous economic contraction we've had. >> we're going to have to leave it there. gentlemen, i want to thank you all. it's good to get analysis from three people to have to meet a payroll every week. coming up, president obama's sunday show media blitz which did not include everyone. our panel reviews the white house strategy right after the break. this country definitely needs to focus on other ways to get energy. we should be looking closer to home. there are places off the continental shelf.
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natural gas can be a part of the solution. i think we need to work on wind resources. they ought to be carefully mapping every conceivable alternative. there is an endless opportunity right here.
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>> turn on your television sunday morning and he'll be there. >> it is a presidential media blitz on five, count 'em, five sunday morning talk shows. well, there you have the lead story on the network newscasts friday night talking about president obama's sunday blitz. and it's time now for our sunday group. brit hume, fox news senior political analyst and contributors mara liasson of national public radio, paul gigot of the "wall street journal," and juan williams also
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from national public radio. let's start with the remarkable number of interviews that barack obama has given so far in his young presidency. take a look at these numbers. as of late august, and that is before today's sunday show palooza, mr. obama had given 114 interviews compared to 37 by george w. bush and 41 by bill clinton at the same point in their presidencies. brit, what is president obama getting for all that exposure? >> less and less. i think that this presidency has proceeded from the assumption that barack obama's personal wonderfulness would be a major part of his success diplomatically and politically, and they have sought to deploy him, he and his aides, at every turn. he turns out, i think in the end, to be an exceptionally appealing and charming man, enormously likeable, but oddly not persuasive. all of the speeches he's given,
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including the one to the joint session, which is a tremendous platform, have not in the end moved the needle on the policies that he's trying to put across effectively. so he risked overexposure and i think in addition to that this isn't working. >> mara, i mean, you cover the white house. is it their feeling that people just haven't heard the argument from the president yet and that if they keep pounding it they'll hear it finally? and do they worry at all about overexposure? >> no, they don't worry about overexposure and they're asked this a lot. he's exposed more than any other president by design. this notion that he's overexposured says if he was out there less, his policies would be doing better. that's not true. if he doesn't get everything he wants in health care, it's not because he was on tv too much. i think we are in a different media environment now and they believe strongly that the media environment is so fractured that he has to try to reach every single audience wherever he can,
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whenever he can. and also they believe that when he does talk in a big set piece speech like the address to the joint session of congress that it does help him. as a matter of fact, we have seen in polling since then that some of the disparity in intensity between the people who were for his health care plans and against them has leveled off. i think they think this does him good. >> the white house has issued a statement this weekend about his decision to exclude fox from the sunday blitz, and we want to put it up. we figured fox would rather show so you think you can dance than broadcast an honest discussion about health insurance reform. fox is an ideological outlet where the president has been interviewed before and will likely be interviewed again, not that the whining particularly strengthens their case for participation any time soon. let me just briefly explain for those of you who haven't been following this back and forth,
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the reference to while you think you can dance, the fox network ran the aforementioned show. the whining refers to me and the fact that i called the white house on a show friday the biggest bunch of cry babies i've ever dealt with in my 30 years in washington. having now explained all of that, paul, your thoughts about the statement and about the white house strategy. >> of course, cnn has no ideological predispositions at all. so, i mean, i think all white houses play favorites. this one plays favorites, too. sometimes fox has benefitted in the past. sometimes other people benefit from when presidents are trying to make a case. we benefit at the "wall street journal" when the treasury of any administration is trying to sell an economic issue. i think that they're missing a big audience. they're missing a chance to come on here. but if i were this white house, i wouldn't play favorites like this. i think it does tend to make them look a little small-minded. but in the end, they -- they think it's useful. wear it as a badge of honor. >> juan? >> in fact, they think fox is an
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ideological asset as you saw in the statement from the white house. they think there are fox personalities who called the president racist. the network is all about defeating president obama, bringing down his administration. now, i think as mara said we live in a fractured media universe and fox without a doubt is more of a conservative outlet. i think that the wise strategy would be for the president to make strategic outreach to people so that he can be heard across the ideological spectrum. i think if he was going to make use today, he'd make it here. i don't think he's going to make news on any of the other channels. it's just his face were out there. >> let's assume he would come on this program and be interviewed by you. you would do a searching interview with a lot of tough questions. he'll get some of those tough questions elsewhere as well. he will do as he does well with those questions. he will field them. he will answer them. and he will reach a larger audience.
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mara makes the point that they think he ought to reach out to as many people as he can. skipping a large outlet like ours with a cable channel in addition to the broadcast outlet on which this appears seems to me at war with this strategy. >> mara, i think it's fair to say and you covered a bunch and so have i, every president is thin-skinned, but i wonder whether this administration, this white house, has a particular problem with criticism. i want you all to watch a comment by top presidential adviser david axelrod last sunday when he was asked about the big demonstration against big government here in washington. take a look. >> i don't think it's indicative of the nation's mood. i don't think we ought to be distracted by that. my message to them is they're wrong. >> not talking just about us, but just the attitude of this white house, whatever happened to reaching out to all americans? >> i think that -- look, i agree the white house would do well to reach out to all americans in
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every possible venue because i think the president does well and especially he's trying to correct some of the -- what he considers to be misinformation and the myths about health care reform, he would do well to do it here. however, i don't think there are any more thin-skinned than other white houses i've covered. i've always got an earful of complaints about the media from every white house press department. so i don't know if they're more thin-skinned. i think we are in a much more adversarial environment and we're also at a particular point in this health care debate where the president's base needs reassurance and needs to be fired up, and i think that's driving a lot of it. >> they're going to demonize fox in order to stir that base. >> this is about reassuring democrats. they're going to have to pass this on a partisan vote almost totally. they know that increasingly. this is about giving them cover and saying the president is going to be with you and fight for you if you have to walk out on a limb and vote for a bill that the majority of the people, american people, oppose, which is the case now. >> and, brit, that goes to your point that the speech that was given to the joint state may not
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have moved the needle in public opinion but it did solidify the democratic vote. >> we have to take a break. when we come back, president obama reverses u.s. policy on missile defense and gets a warning from seven former cia directors. stay tuned.
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>> on this day in 1963, president kennedy suggested a joint mission to the moon with the soviet union. the russians praised kennedy but the mission was abandoned after his assassination. stay tuned for more from the panel and our power player of the week.
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>> those who say we are scrapping missile defense in europe are either misinformed or misrepresenting the reality of what we are doing. >> i think it shows a willful determination to continue ignoring the threat posed by some of the most dangerous regimes in the world. >> that was defense secretary robert gates and house republican leader john boehner differing over the president's decision this week to reverse u.s. missile defense strategy. we're back now with the panel. brit, president obama decided to scrap the bush plan, which was to put missiles and radar in poland and the czech republic and replace it with a lighter system that will be based on ships. is this a sensible response to a changing threat from iran or is it a cave-in to russian pressure?
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>> i'm not going to gain say gates and others who say this is not militarily sound. that's not all that's to it. the problem is the context in which this situation occurred with the russians screaming in protest, the administration interested in a reset of relations with russia, with the polls and the people in the czech republic having climbed out on a political limb to go along with the placement of equipment in their countries, and they're wanting it, and obama in a stroke now by doing this at this moment in particular cuts the legs out from under them and gives the world all the appearances of a guy who is caving in to pressure from russia. that may be unfair. but in national security affairs, it's not just what you do. it's what you are seen to do. strength is a perception as much as it is a reality. this does not look strong. >> mara? >> yeah, i agree with that. i actually think technologically, it sounds like gates has a very cogent argument about how this makes more sense
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and we want to focus on iran and short and medium term missiles. >> and we can get those up by 2011 as opposed to 2017. >> i don't know why it wasn't rolled out in a way that could have provided more reassurance to the czechs and poles that made it look like what it really is. i think the big question now is, is russia ever going to help us on iran? they've already said pretty clearly they don't want to participate in any sanctions if direct negotiations fail. and i also think this was partly designed to reassure israel that we're doing more to protect it against iran and we'll see what happens with these plans which seem to be marg forward. >> this only helps us if sanctions are tough enough to make a difference and ultimately if iran does stand down. otherwise, it will not deter israel which is moving ahead with us. >> from an attack on iran. >> from an attack on iran.
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the message that brit points out this sends to the rest of the world, i think this undermines the credibility of our nuclear deterrent around the world. we want to have defenses so all of our friends don't feel they need to develop their own nuclear weapons as north korea develops theirs, as iran develops theirs. we don't want egypt, turkey, any of these countries, if we pull out from long range missile defenses, this hurts our deterrent and makes it easier for the world to spread nuclear weapons. >> but, juan, as has been pointed out, robert gates was george w. bush's defense secretary. he's been known for decades as a hardliner against the russians. do you see him participating in a cave-in? >> no, i think as brit pointed out, you know, bob gates is a responsible guy and he wouldn't do that. what you have here is a situation where they've made a strategic decision about missiles, and i don't think you can argue that decision without greater information, without absolutely saying that secretary
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gates has somehow thrown in the ball and made this a purely political move. it really is about perception. and that's why i think the point of this has a lot to do with start negotiations on strategic development of nuclear weapons that's come in december with the russians and the fact that you have talks with seven nations starting with iran in october with turkey. we're developing alliances to try to isolate iran at this time, and the russians would be key to it if they would participate. >> all right. before we run out of time and we're about to, i want to also talk about the continuing debate over the justice department investigation of cia interrogations. we have the extraordinary display this week, event this week, of seven former cia directors stretching all the way back i think to jimmy carter's presidency sending a letter to president obama, and let's put up what it said on the screen, urging him to end the justice
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department probe. they wrote this. the decision to reopen the the criminal investigation creates an atmosphere of continuous jeopardy for those who's cases the department of justice had previously declined to prosecute. brit? >> this is a terrible idea to conduct this investigation. for all the reasons that were stated in that letter and were stated as far as we can tell by leon panetta, the current cia director as well. you don't want a chilling effect on cia aides in the field. they're worried enough about a possible future prosecutions as it was. this intensifies that. the president would be wise to put a stop to it. >> well, but having said that, mara, in one of these interviews, the president said i'm not interfering with attorney general holder. >> he can't put a stop to it. >> of course he can. >> i think at this point the fact that this has already started and we've got a prosecutor, i think the best possible political outcome for the president would be that they look into this and they decide there's no reason to prosecute
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and they're able to say we gave this a second, third, fourth, fifth look even though it had been looked at carefully and we are now completely -- >> we have a minute left. it is interesting because there was a leak to the -- one of the papers yesterday -- i think "the washington post," that said it's going to be fewer cases that they'll review, fewer than 10. is the feeling this will disappear? >> there were people who thought that was the calculation here, that they would appease us by appointing somebody and then get rid of it. the problem with special counsels, you can't control them. you never know where they're going to go, and this has really put the administration politically in jeopardy. >> all right, panel. thank you. see you all next week. we want to extend our thoughts and prayers to our colleague bill kristol and his family. bill's father, irving kristol, died friday. known as the godfather of neoconservatism, he helped start a movement for disaffected liberals who had been mugged by reality. when kristol was awarded the
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medal of freedom in 2002, president bush praised him as a wide ranging thinker whose writings have helped transform america's political landscape. irving kristol was 89. and we'll be right back. an eleven sixteenths wrench over here? here you go. eleven sixteenths... (announcer) from designing some of the world's cleanest and most fuel-efficient jet engines... to building more wind turbines than anyone in the country... the people of ge are working together... creating innovation today for america's tomorrow. thanks! no problem!
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here's our power player of the week. >> beautiful thing to look at. the history is both mysterious and intriguing. >> jeffrey post is curator of the gem and mineral collection at the smithsonian as museum of natural history. he's talking about the hope diamond. >> blue diamonds have always been very rare. it's hard to lose a blue diamond in history. >> and what a history it's had. in the 1600s, the french merchant found it in indian and sold it to king louis xiv. >> this blue diamond known as the french blue was one of his featured gemstones. >> during the french revolution, it was stolen and according to some accounts ended up in the collection of king george iv of england. by 1839, british banker henry phillip hope owned it and gave it his name. only now the 69 carat diamond was 45.5 carats. >> we believe it ended up in london and there was recut in
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order to disguise the diamond so that it could be now resold. >> that's not just a guess. the smithsonian did computer modelling to show the hope diamond fits perfectly inside the french blue, which fits inside the original gem. in 1912, famed jeweler pierre cartier sold it for $180,000 plus some diamonds she traded. and cartier seems to have invented a curse to go with it. >> she wore it everywhere. hard to find a picture of her after she purchased the diamond in which she is not wearing the diamond. >> gem merchant harry winston donated the hope diamond to the museum in 1958 where it now sits in an impregnable glass vault. that is except for this week when jeff post took it out and gave us an extraordinary look at it. >> well, chris, here's the hope diamond. it's not often we have a chance
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to introduce someone as closely as we are here. >> may i? >> go ahead. >> the hope diamond. it is only 1 inch in diameter, but it's been an object of fascination for centuries. the museum is celebrating 50 years of the hope diamond by displaying it next week naked without its setting. then people have voted on the internet for a new setting. it will be displayed in next spring. but no one will see it like this. speaking technically, how good a diamond is it? >> it is a diamond with great clarity. it is a near flawless stone. the combination of the size, the color, and the clarity of it make it an unmatched diamond. it really is one of a kind. >> and if you wanted to sell it? >> if there's anything in the world that one could point to and say it's priceless, take the u.s. treasury or bigger the u.s. debt and try and buy another diamond like this one, you
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really could not do it. there's not one out there anywhere. >> that was a treat. jeff post says when he sees a movie about a jewel heist, he often has a sleepless night worrying whether someone will find a way to steal the hope diamond and add yet another chapter to its remarkable history. now this program note. next sunday we'll focus on the virginia governor's race, one of the biggest elections this november. republican bob mcdonald has agreed to debate. we're still waiting to hear whether democrat creigh deeds will join him. we'll see you next "fox news sunday." captioning by captionmax www.captionmax.com
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>> welcome back. let's get right to the root of the problem: hair loss and what causes it. now, hair loss affects more than 70 million people in north america today... 40 million men and 30 million women. that's a lot of people. some people try products that claim to regrow hair, only to find out a few hundred dollars later that they didn't work. don't waste your money on unproven remedies. if you care about how you look and you want to get your hair back, take time to listen to world-renowned hair loss expert dr. jon gaffney, medical director of hair club, a board-certified plastic surgeon and member of the american medical association. >> hair loss for both men and women is more common than you think. by the age of 50, half the adult population experiences hair loss. many of us in the medical community expect this trend to increase over time, in part due to such things as stress, poor nutrition, fad diets and certain prescription medication. hair loss is different for men and women. male-pattern hair loss is the most common hair loss for men,
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representing more than 90% of all male cases in north america. it occurs due to the chemical dihydrotestosterone, commonly known as dht. dht causes a shortening of the life span of the hair follicles in these men. the follicles' resistance to dht, or lack thereof, is genetic, and that's why some men go bald and some don't. >> for me, i started to go bald when i was in high school. it was a little bit at the beginning and then it got really worse, uh, once i got into college. and, to the point where it was really dramatic. and through this time, i started to use a lot of different products, a lot of different things that promised a... you know, regrowing of hair, uh, things of that nature. >> hair loss, for women, in many ways is far more traumatic. the psychological effects for women can be devastating. there are many different causes of hair loss among women. female-pattern thinning, which is genetic diffuse hair loss, menopause-related, postpartum or stress-related shedding and
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alopecia aereata, or spotty hair loss, are just a few. some hair loss in women is caused by poor hair care. harsh chemical relaxers or tight hair braiding can permanently damage these hair follicles. >> you know, a woman losing her hair has to be the most difficult thing in the world. you know, you expect men to lose their hair, but not women, right? it's very unbecoming. it's embarrassing. you lose your self-esteem. i mean, i did the weave thing. then you get the wigs. guess what? you're very uncomfortable going out. it's a windy day. you don't know if it's gonna blow off. i'm a profuse sweater, right? it could just slide off. then you pick up a kid. they grab it, it moves. it's like, "enough already." there has got to be something better. >> there is an old expression that says, "if the only tool you have is a hammer, then all the world looks like a nail." hair club is not about one tool. it's about all proven hair loss solutions. >> that was dr. jon gaffney, world-renowned hair loss expert.
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now, we'll show you how you can get your hair back with proven hair loss solutions. >> announcer: don't tolerate another day of hair loss or thinning hair... because now, the solution you need to get a fuller, natural head of hair is just one phone call away. hair club is the only company in the world to offer all tested and proven hair loss solutions, because no single solution is right for every type of hair loss. call hair club now for this free educational booklet and get a free microscopic hair and scalp analysis at any of our hair club centers nationwide. young or old, man or woman... no matter what kind of hair loss you may have, hair club has a unique solution for you, guaranteed. no other company on the planet can make that claim. hair club has been the recognized leader in hair loss solutions for over 30 years, with centers in over 90 locations and over 50,000 satisfied clients. call now and get the facts.
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the things that you've always wanted to do with your hair, using different products and styling your hair differently. >> i finally went to the hair club and i found that they had the best technology and they were far superior than everyone else. they treated me like a family, like i was somebody important. i decided to go with them, and the results speak for themselves. people would just kind of look at you and wonder what's going on. you know, this guy's looking younger and younger and i'm feeling better and better about it and, uh, it just... it's a great feeling. >> hair club is the only company that offers all proven hair loss solutions, backed by a guarantee of satisfaction. if you are not 100% satisfied with the option you've chosen, hair club will apply your initial purchase price to any of its other proven hair loss solutions. hair club has changed many peoples' lives. you might not know it now, but i used to have a hair loss problem. is your hair loss bothering you? maybe it's time you did something about it. when we come back, we'll introduce the people who can
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help you find the right solution. >> announcer: don't tolerate another day of hair loss or thinning hair... because now, the solution you need to get a fuller, natural head of hair is just one phone call away. hair club is the only company in the world to offer all tested and proven hair loss solutions, because no single solution is right for every type of hair loss. call hair club now for this free educational booklet and get a free microscopic hair and scalp analysis at any of our hair club centers nationwide. young or old, man or woman... no matter what kind of hair loss you may have, hair club has a unique solution for you, guaranteed. no other company on the planet can make that claim. hair club has been the recognized leader in hair loss solutions for over 30 years, with centers in over 90 locations and over 50,000 satisfied clients. call now and get the facts. hair club's new breakthrough educational booklet is
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yours free. this vital, new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your life. pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you free, with absolutely no obligation. as an added bonus, we'll also give you a free, private and confidential microscopic hair and scalp analysis. this is a $150 value, but it's yours free if you call right now. this offer is for a limited time only. don't tolerate hair loss another day. look younger and feel more confident. take on the world like your old self. call now and change your life forever. hair club. we do it all... for you. >> you've heard from the experts. you've heard from the clients. so let's talk about another aspect of hair club that truly makes this company unique: its staff. at hair club, you'll meet a caring staff that will help you through all aspects of hair restoration, from informative consultants to hair loss experts to world-class hair stylists.
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hair club is the only company that offers all proven hair loss solutions, backed by a guarantee of satisfaction. >> i feel like i am part of an amazing makeover team. i feel like all those shows you see on tv now, except i work for hair club. >> after people get their hair, you can really see the change in them. you see a confidence, newfound confidence that people often have. >> when you have a full head of hair, there's a lot you can do with it. you can shampoo your hair, condition it, blow-dry and also curl, iron and style your hair. >> they want to make sure that you walk out of there completely satisfied and comfortable and they want you to be able to say, "hey, you know, this is me. i've got a full head of hair and i feel great." >> i'm an expert because i also suffer from hair loss. and i have been through all the emotions. i've experienced it from the time i was a child until i found my solution at the hair club. i am passionate about what i do. >> the way that i was treated was outstanding and one of my main, great experiences is the
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way they treated me. my hair stylist and i were able to vibe. we were able to communicate. she knew exactly what i wanted. >> i'm here to tell you that it's a wonderful experience. people were very kind, very sensitive. >> you know, this is really a personal thing. the hair club, they take the time to listen, and they take the time to get it right. >> hair club will lay out all the solutions and they'll do what's right for you. as a matter of fact, you'll make the decision what you want to do. >> my most enjoyable experience was a female client. um, she came in. she's planning her wedding and she can finally wear her hair up. i'm gonna cry. [laughs] i'm sorry. >> i love working at hair club. it's really an incredible job. to come to work every day and really help people and see these transformations in people, it's amazing. i love it. >> now, we'll show you how you can get your hair back with proven hair loss solutions. >> announcer: don't tolerate another day of hair loss or thinning hair... because now, the solution you need to get a fuller, natural head of hair is
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just one phone call away. hair club is the only company in the world to offer all tested and proven hair loss solutions, because no single solution is right for every type of hair loss. call hair club now for this free educational booklet and get a free microscopic hair and scalp analysis at any of our hair club centers nationwide. young or old, man or woman... no matter what kind of hair loss you may have, hair club has a unique solution for you, guaranteed. no other company on the planet can make that claim. hair club has been the recognized leader in hair loss solutions for over 30 years, with centers in over 90 locations and over 50,000 satisfied clients. call now and get the facts. hair club's new breakthrough educational booklet is yours free. this vital, new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your life. pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you free, with absolutely no obligation. as an added bonus, we'll also
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give you a free, private and confidential microscopic hair and scalp analysis. this is a $150 value, but it's yours free if you call right now. this offer is for a limited time only. don't tolerate hair loss another day. look younger and feel more confident. take on the world like your old self. call now and change your life forever. hair club. we do it all... for you. >> at this very moment, hair club has more than 50,000 clients nationwide. 50,000 people, who, like you, wanted to do something about their hair loss. we'd like you to meet some of those clients now and view some of their amazing results. hair club has changed their lives and it all started with one simple phone call. >> i'm an old guy with a young wife and young kids. i got a five-year-old. i got a seven-year-old. there are a lot of guys out there like me. i know a lot of you guys waited till later in life to get married and raise your families. it's kind of important for me
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when i drop my kids off that the other kids don't think i'm their grandfather, o.k.? you know, guys, we don't sit around and talk about fashion and hairstyles a whole lot, but when i'm sitting around a poker table or under the lights of a pool table, nobody gives me any grief. it looks good, it looks natural and that's all that anybody cares about. people ask me about it. i'm not afraid to tell 'em, "yeah, man, i did something different-- i got my hair cut." >> my sister actually saw the hair club commercial. and she dragged me out of the house on a saturday and says, "come on, let's go." i get there, right? i see the infomercial. they talk to me about, you know, what it would be like and what they could possibly do for me. at that point, i said, "i'm willing to give it a chance." i am so glad that i did. it has been the best thing that i have ever done in terms of helping my self-esteem, right? looking like the woman that i can be, right? and i flaunt it... because i can. >> i first realized i started losing hair about 21, 22, and i was looking 32 rather
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quickly, so it added 10, 15 years to me immediately. you're a little embarrassed. there's no way before i had my hair i could have walked up to dimeana and asked her to go out with me and be where we're at now. i just didn't have the confidence before. we've got about a few months left until the wedding, and that's all she thinks about, i know, but... 'cause i'm not gonna look, well, 30 years older. i'm gonna look like a young man marrying a beautiful woman, so it's gonna be great. >> we have a library of thousands of testimonial letters from happy clients. although hair club maintains a high level of confidentiality and discretion, these clients were so happy with their results, they wanted to share their experiences with you. >> when you go into these centers, the staff is so well-trained and they're so caring, because they truly care about peoples' looks. and one thing you need to know is a lot of people are doing this, more people than you'll ever know. i just immediately felt rejuvenated. i felt like i had a face-lift, the whole nine yards. it was just a wonderful experience. >> i started losing my hair when i was 28 years old and i
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was devastated. i saw the commercials. i had to order the brochure. the men on the commercial looked so natural, so real. i went into the center. it changed my life. i'm telling you men, i felt so good about myself. i've never felt better. >> before i went to hair club, my hair was limp and lifeless and there was so little that i could do with it. i remember traveling outside on summer days, having to wear a hat because my head would come home and i'd be... i would be sunburned. i would get home and it would be sunburned. now, i don't have that problem. i can have nothing on my head and i can ride around in a convertible with my hair flipping around and it feels great. >> as a high diver, i've been everywhere and i dive in front of thousands of people every day. and i walk right up close to every one of these people after the shows and nobody can tell the difference. it feels great. i mean, the confidence that i have when i walk up to them is great and, uh, it gives me the confidence when i'm standing up on the ladder to know that i look good.
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and i look good from all angles. and that's been just a great experience for me. >> criteria was very simple. if it was detectable, i was out. i'm not gonna play, don't want it. but at the end of the day, it was perfect, everybody was happy and now, i look about 20 years younger. >> with the line of work that i'm in-- i'm in sales-- my image is everything. so the better i look, the more i sell because they're buying a part of me. so my appearance is very important to me. and i know that regardless if i'm at the gym or with my man, my hair is looking fantastic. >> as you've just seen, hair club really listens to its clients and really cares about improving peoples' lives. when we come back, you'll see what proven solution is best for you, based on your age, level of hair loss and expectations. we'll be right back. >> announcer: don't tolerate another day of hair loss or thinning hair... because now, the solution you need to get a fuller, natural head of hair is
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just one phone call away. hair club is the only company in the world to offer all tested and proven hair loss solutions, because no single solution is right for every type of hair loss. call hair club now for this free educational booklet and get a free microscopic hair and scalp analysis at any of our hair club centers nationwide. young or old, man or woman... no matter what kind of hair loss you may have, hair club has a unique solution for you, guaranteed. no other company on the planet can make that claim. hair club has been the recognized leader in hair loss solutions for over 30 years, with centers in over 90 locations and over 50,000 satisfied clients. call now and get the facts. hair club's new breakthrough educational booklet is yours free. this vital, new information, endorsed by prominent physicians, can change your life. pick up the phone right now and we'll rush it to you free, with absolutely no obligation. as an added bonus, we'll also
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give you a free, private and confidential microscopic hair and scalp analysis. this is a $150 value, but it's yours free if you call right now. this offer is for a limited time only. don't tolerate hair loss another day. look younger and feel more confident. take on the world like your old self. call now and change your life forever. hair club. we do it all... for you. >> since 1976, hair club has been delivering solutions that actually work. the proof is in the pictures. visit hair club today and get started on a customized solution that will work for you. you've seen a number of clients today who have improved their appearance by taking that first step and calling hair club. imagine what we can do for you. whether you want a full head of hair, or you're just trying to keep what you have, hair club has an option that's right for you. so, get ready to look great and feel better than you've ever felt before. hair club has more than 50,000
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clients in north america. that's more than 50,000 reasons to call, but the most important reason is you. whether you're 25 or 65, you'll be amazed at what hair club can do for you. call now. stopping your hair loss is just a phone call away. >> and i can do whatever i want every day. i can go swimming, i can play sports. i can do whatever. it's fabulous. >> i feel so much better, you know, knowing that i've got my hair. i can go out and people'll see the real me and it means all the difference to me. >> you guys don't need to shave that head, you know? keep some hair on there. join the hair club, like i did. >> i do urge you to call the hair club. it will make the biggest difference in your life than anything you've ever done. >> don't hesitate. go in right now because you will feel better, you'll look better and it'll be something that you will appreciate in the long run. >> you owe it to yourself to go in and talk to them, at least talk to them and find out what they have, what your options are for you. >> look, make the call.
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um, it'll change your life. >> every day that i get up, i can say, "ooh," right? this is me, this is who i am. i look great today. thank you, hair club. you have made such a difference in my life. >> i took charge of my life, i changed my life and you can do the same thing as well. [♪...] >> woman: ♪ ooh... yeah ♪ yeah, yeah, yeah. [♪...] >> announcer: hair club. we do it all... for you. [♪...] the preceding was paid for and furnished by hair club for men and women. this station is not responsible for claims made in the preceding program.
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